The Maine U.S. Senate candidate Andrew Ian Dodge recently posted on FaceBook about whether the riots in London might provide a kind of “wake up call” to the citizens of the U.K. to re-think their philosophies about self-defense in general, and gun ownership in particular.
I told him it was the L.A. riots, combined with my third mugging, that led my husband to believe we should consider getting firearms. And in fact it was owning guns that opened my eyes to the states’ overreach in so many other areas. The left is right to fear firearms, since exercise of that particular freedom and experience of that self-sufficiency (however limited it is in scope) can be a “gateway drug” to other forms of independent thought and action.
Now, via Insty, comes Nile Gardiner of the Telegraph, asking in print the question that citizens of the U.K. are not supposed to even consider in their innermost minds: Wouldn’t a willingness to stand up to the mobs, combined with an armed citizenry, have greatly limited the damage in London?
During the Los Angeles riots in 1992, many store owners in the south central part of the city defended their property against marauding gangs with their own weapons, and succeeded in protecting their livelihoods and thousands of jobs that depended on them.
And across the country, Americans admired their bravery, thankful for the Second Amendment to the US Constitution, which protects their right to keep and bear arms, and thereby defend themselves, their families and their property.
In contrast in London in 2011, shopkeepers were left at the mercy of feral, brutal thugs acting with impunity across whole swathes of the capital as the police were overwhelmed. If they had the right to bear arms and defend their stores with force, it would have been a very different story, and brutal looters would have met firm resistance.
Britain’s gun laws are among the most draconian in the world, yet the nation has some of the highest levels of violent crime and burglary in the West, and there is no shortage of gun crime in major cities such as London and Manchester. While criminal gangs are often able to acquire firearms on the black market, ordinary law-abiding British citizens are barred from owning guns for self-defence.
The riots in London, the West Midlands and the North West should prompt a renewed debate in Britain over the right to bear arms by private citizens. The shocking scenes of looting across the country are a reminder that the police cannot always be relied upon to protect homes and businesses during a period of widespread social disorder.
The defence of life and property can never be entrusted solely to the state, not least when there is a complete breakdown in law and order. As we have seen this week in Britain, when individuals are barred from defending their own property from mobs of vicious thugs, sheer anarchy and terror reins.
It’s true: the Korean grocers whose businesses were closest to the flash points used large bags of rice as sandbags, and barricaded their businesses. They took up positions in front and on the roofs, with rifles.
And no one attempted to burn down the businesses so protected. No one.
Self-defense is, as Dean Esmay used to remind us back in blogging’s heyday, a human right. It has to be re-ratified in a Western world that has largely lost its way on this issue.
A hugely important, must-read Instapundit thread on the forced passivity of the UK citizens shows just how wildly out of sync British society has become.
Wake. Up.
UPDATE: And . . . the alarm clock has indeed gone off. Via Moe Lane, the Guardian reports:
When the trouble came, hairdressers, sales assistants and butchers were among the scores of Turkish and Kurdish workers who stood outside their businesses in Green Lanes, Haringey, from 8pm having been warned by police to expect trouble.
The Guardian filmed others – some armed with baseball bats – on guard outside shops and restaurants in Kingsland Road, only a mile away from Hackney’s burning high street. Three workers from Re-Style Hairdressers were among those out in Green Lanes, after word spread that an attack was imminent at about 4pm.
“I was here with my brother and my boss waiting for them until about midnight,” said 16-year-old Huseyin Beytar. “If some guy ever breaks a window in this street, all the Turkish Kurdish people come down to protect the shops. We’re like a family.”
“We have to do things for ourselves,” said Huseyin. “We have to look after each other. If they come here tonight there will be a fight, a big fight.”
“We were outside ready and expecting them,” said the manager of Turkish Food Market, who asked not to be named.
“But I felt very panicky because we are not safe from either the rioters or police.
“We put all of our efforts into this shop. It took 20 years to get it like this. But we do not know about our rights.
“I’m scared that the police and the government will attack us if we defend our businesses.
“We are being squeezed between the two.”
Debbie Mumdy, 41, who lives nearby, said: “Most of the residents are really relieved that the Turkish community has been protecting the area. It’s thanks to these guys that Kingsland High Street wasn’t attacked.”
Moe:
Turns out that property and business owners take peace and stability a hell of a lot more seriously than do… I believe that the theological term is “lumpen-proletariat?” Also turns out that people with a tangible stake in society tend to want their kids to buy into that, too.
I’d say “Who knew?” – except that, well, I did.





tree hugging sister on August 10, 2011 at 5:30 pm said:
Very true, Joy.
Another example, if I may, that predates THAT by a few years. It was a late addition to a post I put up this morning:
tree hugging sister on August 10, 2011 at 7:11 pm said:
And here IS what I meant to post in that lovely quote blank above.
It reminds me of a story a friend of mine (whose real name we’ll replace) from high school would tell about when the riots broke out after Martin Luther King was assassinated. Newark was a barn burning damn near every night; then they’d all go to bed, sleep it off, start fresh the next evening. Half the city was incinerated. Rocco’s uncle was a charter member of, well, Tony Soprano’s garbage company, who lived in Newark’s well established Italian quarter which WAS, coincidentally, one of the few places left that wasn’t smouldering. Taking note of that fact, the company called all the troops home, complete with the tools of their particular trade and skill set.
By the next evening, when the mob turned the corner ready to light up the avenue and do some five finger discount shopping, their progress was abruptly halted by the sight of about 100 wise guys nonchalantly leaning on vehicles or chilling on doorstoops. Stopping momentarily to assess the danger, they figured their overwhelming numbers could take them, surged forward…and then skittered backward in a mad panic as every fellow chilling or leaning lifted a weapon. Twice that number of barrels poked suddenly out of open windows. And all were pointing their way.
An attitude adjustment of epic proportions. They found another section of the city to torch.
richard mcenroe on August 11, 2011 at 3:20 pm said:
The same thing happened in NYC during the blackout riots in ’77. The two neighborhoods that DIDN’T get looted were Little Italy, where the Mob simply forted up every street, and that stretch of Third Avenue where the NYC chapter of the Hell’s Angels hung out. They put a few hundred pounds of biker on each corner and there were, strangely, no problems.
ponce on August 10, 2011 at 11:45 pm said:
8 dead in Ohio last week thanks to some 2nd Amendment hero.
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-08-07/justice/ohio.shooting_1_shootings-shot-one-victim-gunman?_s=PM:CRIME
Mass murder via legal firearms is getting to be a daily occurrence in well-defended America.
Joy McCann on August 11, 2011 at 12:39 am said:
Yes, indeedy; there is no difference at all between multiple-victim homicide and makeing sure one’s business isn’t burned to the ground.
Darrell on August 11, 2011 at 4:21 am said:
The eight fatality was the gunman himself, shot by a police officer.
Or is that officer a 2nd Amendment nut, as well, comrade ponce-a-nutter?
Darrell on August 11, 2011 at 4:29 am said:
We are all wondering when Barack Obama, Rahm Emanuel, and David Axelrod with be charged with 1000+ murders for hatching that plot to deliver weapons to Mexican gangs in order to push national gun control, now that it appears that the order came right from the top.
ponce on August 11, 2011 at 11:40 am said:
Right after Bush an the Republicans get charged with delivering 190,000 weapons to al Qaeda.
http://www.publicintegrity.org/investigations/broken_government/articles/entry/914/
richard mcenroe on August 11, 2011 at 11:45 am said:
Charged. In that cool Bush/Cheney were charged kinda way… Just came over from Dan Riehl’s. Any truth to the rumor ponce’s last name is barfo?
Darrell on August 11, 2011 at 1:22 pm said:
Theft by an Iraqi national equates to intentional sales to Mexican drug gangs ordered by a sitting US president and his staff as a policy? You should be an attorney. You better work for free though. Pretty soon your name on the docket will be grounds for a new trial just based on that alone.
Al-Qaeda? Any serial numbers show up like with King Putt’s weapons?
Al-Qaeda gets their weapons the old-fashioned way–from Iran and other outlaw nations–like the ones you are always supporting. The cash they raise from Euro-Lefties, like that “Ten Euro” Program or the similar efforts here, goes to other uses. Like strip clubs for cell members when they are here on a mission.
Deborah Leigh on August 11, 2011 at 4:48 pm said:
Though I was miles from the riots, I remember the Korean father with his son who took to the roof of their store that served the neighborhood that the looters, some of them customers, were tearing apart. They weren’t exclusive. There were others that defended themselves and property. Too bad the police didn’t fire on looters who were walking by with tvs, clothing, etc. My bet is that the Koreans wouldn’t have held back.