As I noted in my last post, I’m here for the Conservatory’s number-checking needs. (I will look at that deficit graph later.)
Let me pick one of the hottest topics: employment (and unemployment).
Thanks to someone who provided all of one link in the blog post that inspired me, I see that Obama’s Truth Team has a pretty graph on job creation (including the year before Obama became President):
I can quibble as to whether the most recent numbers are just estimates that inevitably get adjusted downward, but no matter. Let’s stack up those bars, using the numbers from the Obama Truth Team graph itself (to be fair, I’ll omit January 2009):
Covering the period from February 2009 – April 2012:
Total down: 4.212 million
Total up: 4.247 million
Net position in May 2012: +35 thousand
….in a country the size of the U.S., that’s pretty much within error bars of having broken even. They have to use statistical sampling to give us this estimate, after all.
Of course, that’s since the beginning of Obama’s administration. I’m not counting all those jobs lost since 2007. But hey — Bush’s fault. Can’t expect Obama to have helped the country grow out of that hole…. even if he may have gotten elected under that assumption.
But let’s think about those numbers. Who really cares about the number of jobs…especially given some of us (howdy!) hold down more than one? Don’t we really care about whether a person able (and willing) to work is employed?
And isn’t the population growing? Wouldn’t you need better than breakeven to get back to where you were before?
Indeed. So let’s look at the labor participation rate. The Bureau of Labor Statistics have this stat going back to 1948, and I picked all sexes, all races, and a specific age range — ages 25 – 54. I figure that these are the prime working years, so I shouldn’t be seeing distortions from college attendance or early retirement. This should give us a measure of what employment is really like. This particular data series is LNU01300060, if you want to check. And hey, here’s my publicly available spreadsheet with which I made the following graphs.
I love looking at long time series. First, you can see the relatively low participation rates of women, as the starting rate in 1948 was about 63%. There’s a long slide upwards as the rate goes from very few women working to lots, and it looks like the transformation is pretty much complete by 1990. In 1990, women born in 1935 would have just popped out of the age range in question. Given my own mother-in-law was born in the late 1930s, and has worked outside the home since before my husband was born, I don’t find it that surprising that this “revolution” occurred before the Boomers.
So let’s zoom in and start our look at 1990:
Hmmm, an interesting 20+ years there. The line is wiggly, by the way, because I chose the non-seasonally-adjusted data. I prefer my data to be massaged as little as necessary.
Notice that the peak participation rate, at about 84.5%, occurs around the beginning of 2000…. ah, the dot-com peak. Those were fun times.
Man, doesn’t look so hot since 2000, does it?
Let’s zoom in again, now starting in 2000:
Yeah. The story doesn’t look good for Obama. Remember, this is the prime working years: ages 25 – 54. I’m not counting the youngsters or the retirees (unless you want to make the case that a bunch of public employees taking early retirement is a good thing.) The most recent “peak” occurred in October 2008, and has been nothing but a downward slide since.
Now, for comparison’s sake, the last time the labor participation rate was below 81.3% (the April 2012 participation rate) was August 1985.
Feel free to spread around the spreadsheet and graphs. Check the numbers for yourself, but you’ll find I got them straight from the BLS (as of today… they could adjust the 2012 numbers later).
So sure, talk about the number of jobs. But the absolute number of jobs is somewhat meaningless unless you give us the size of the potential labor force to compare against.
Oh, and if you want to claim my numbers are wrong?
Prove it.
And show your damn work.








Mind-Numbed Robot (@mnrobot) on May 24, 2012 at 5:27 pm said:
Number-Checking: Jobs and Labor Participation Rate http://t.co/P7T7ZmvF #tcot #gop #vrwc
Starless on May 25, 2012 at 7:10 am said:
This is a berry, berry interesting post.
Given my own mother-in-law was born in the late 1930s, and has worked outside the home since before my husband was born, I don’t find it that surprising that this “revolution” occurred before the Boomers.
I’ve always wondered about the fact versus myth in this, but most of the contra-mythical information I have is anecdotal– maternal grandmother, born in ‘aught five, had a paying job outside the home (though paternal grandmother was a housewife), and while Mom didn’t enter the workforce until we could get ourselves to school and back without dying, Dad had to work three jobs.
So, I have always had my doubts about the single income/housewife truism–that families could “afford” to have the wife stay at home. Or was it that the wife could stay at home as long as either the husband had a fancy Madison Ave. income, multiple jobs, or the family lived an austere lifestyle?
Prove it.
Speaking for all of the “Centrists” out there: no! I don’ wanna! Assertion is proof enough!
Meep on May 25, 2012 at 9:30 am said:
I’m not going to make a separate blog post on this, but I found something berry berry interesting when I looked at the male v. female subsets….
In 1948, the female (age 25 – 54) labor participation rate was about 35%, peaking in 1999/2000 at about 77%, and then falling to about 74% currently. (data series LNU01300062)
Males though… wow. (data series LNU01300061)
In 1948, started at about 97%, peaked to near-98% in 1953, and then it’s been downhill from there. The mancession, though, is unmistakeable, as the steepness in the drop is most severe from 2008 to now. It dropped from about 97.5% in 1953 (annual) to 90.5% in 2008. Thats 700 bps in 55 years – a slope of about 127 bps per decade.
From beginning 2008 to beginning 2012 — it has dropped from about 90.6% to 88.6% — 200 bps in 4 years. That’s 500 bps per decade…. I assume that decrease will not continue, but wow.
Starless on May 25, 2012 at 11:24 am said:
I will be waiting for Barbara Mikulski, Patty Murray, Debbie Stabenow, Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer to express their outrage at this terrible gender disparity in the workforce.
It’s sort of like the college gender gap. So great, women are attending and graduating from college in record numbers, but should be celebrating that much when men are dropping out like flies? I’d hope at some point we’d realize we’re all in this together.
Mary Pat Campbell (@meepbobeep) on May 30, 2012 at 4:30 am said:
Number-checking: jobs and labor participation rate http://t.co/flMYjXqV